Where does Ray Allen rank as NBA greatest shooters?

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By Gemineye

Watching game 2 last night between the Celtics and Lakers was amazing. Not only because I am rooting for the Cmen, but Ray Allen blew me away. The 34 year old shooting guard lit up the Lakers like a Christmas tree. He dropped 32 pts on the Lakers on 11-20 shooting, including 8-11 from 3 point range.

For those of you, who may not understand (then again, why are you reading this if you aren’t interested in basketball?) that is exceptional. Making 72% of your 3 point attempts in something not many people can do.

So much so, his 8 trifectors, that his 8 is a new NBA finals three point record for most made. At one point, he was 7-7 from outside the arc, in the first half alone! It got to the point, where Lakers players were just raising their hands up in a “What do you want me to do about this guy?” gesture.

Of course, the 3pt shot has come a long way since first brought into the NBA in 1979. Growing up, as an 80’s kid, the 3 pt shot was a special danger. And it was unique when someone hoisted one up. Teams didn’t put up 20 three’s in a game. This day and age, if you don’t have a three point shooter who knocks down 100+ treys a year, you’re behind the system. The past 12 seasons, the leading 3 point maker has no less than 201 in a season, compared to 79-87, when the season leaders had no more than 92 in a season. It’s a whole new world.

Becoming a great shooter, of course is obviously more than just chucking up threes. It’s a craft, it’s something that’s worked on, more than anything else in one’s game. It’s showing up early at practice, and leaving late, dropping jumpers from all over the court. Those are the guys, the ones that hone their skill with repetition and study of the game. Learning their sport, and learning their shooting ability. Those are the ones, I am talking about. Real, genuine,… shooters.

Now, of course, there are so many styles of the shooting expert. Shot selection is always important. Smart shooting, I call it. Often times, the older players learn to get a shot off when they need to, and they have the wits to get off high-quality shots. Moving without the ball has always been something I have felt strongly about. Not only do you confuse your defender, running through screens, but you tire him as well. Off the dribble shooters can create their shot, which is great. Whether it’s a set up isolation dribble-to-shot, or a 1-2 dribble power move jump shot, it all works. The triple threat position, of course goes back to the core fundamentals of shooting the ball. Those of you who don’t know what the triple threat position is, quickly, it’s holding the ball in a position to either shoot, dribble off, or pass at a moments notice.

So, as after last night display of sheer awesomeness, it got me thinking, where does Ray Allen rank amongst the best shooters in NBA history, to me? (C’mon, you knew, I was going to have something like this, didn’t you?)

A lot goes into my ranking, and after thoroughly thinking it over. As complicated as it was, here are my top 10 best shooters in NBA history, I have witnessed.

10-Glen Rice; 6-7 SF

9-Dale Ellis; 6-7 SG

8-Peja Stojakovic;6-9 SG/SF

7-Ray Allen; 6-5 SG

6-Dirk Nowitzki;7-0 PF

5-Jeff Hornacek; 6-3 SG

4-Mark Price; 6-0 PG

3-Reggie Miller; 6-7 SG

2-Larry Bird; 6-9 SF

1-Steve Nash;6-3 PG

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Mike Lickteig profile image

Mike Lickteig Level 3 Commenter 23 months ago

I am a huge Ray Allen fan, but his 0-13 (0-8 from 3-point range) performance in game three didn't exactly cement his place in NBA shooting history. That said, no single game will tarnish his greatness and he is unquestionably one of the greatest shooters in the history of the NBA.

Defining the greatest shooters is tricky. Obviously it is more than just field goal percentage or a big man shooting layups would be the best. It isn't just 3-point shooting, either, because that narrowly defines what constitutes a shooter. I do think your list is pretty good, and I commend you for not falling victim to the Michael Jordan mystique. MJ was a good scorer, but certainly not one of the greatest shooters ever.

Off the top of my head and without trying to pour through statistics to validate someone's inclusion or exclusion, I wonder if Byron Scott deserves to be here. It seems that through most of his career he was around 50% from the field and over 40% from 3-point range. I think Steve Kerr, John Paxon or Craig Hodges also deserve consideration, although perhaps none of them shot or scored enough to be considered.

If I were to consider an old guy from long ago, I would go with Rick Barry. The guy was a brilliant shooter and would have really benefitted from a 3-point line when he was in his prime.

A nice list overall, and it was a shame Ray Allen didn't do better tonight.

Mike

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Gemineye Hub Author 23 months ago

I agree - I'll tell ya, this was incredibly hard to go through. Byron Scott was a great shooter, and I thought about him alot. To me, it just kind of came down to scoring chances etc. Jordan was a scorer, not a shooter, you're absolutely correct again on that one as well. Personally, it's how I see Kobe today, there's a big difference in a scorer and a shooter.

Thank you for you comments Mike.

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ryansmoot614 23 months ago

I would have to agree with you on this hub... I felt Ray Allen did not deliver in the cluth games that mattered

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Gemineye Hub Author 23 months ago

I was really torn throughout this, Ray Allen is a great shooter, but I agree 100%, when the chips were down, he didn't produce. As much as being a great shooter with a great stroke, I would also put him as one of my streakiest shooters as well.

Thanks for the comment Ryan

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Tom T Level 2 Commenter 21 months ago

Kind of hard to compare players in the pre/post hand check days but Steve Nash #1? Dirk #6 Nah.. Nash might be #4/5. He doesn't shoot enough...like 10 shots per game. A shooter has to shoot. Not his fault. He's a PG he's not supposed to shoot. He's probably the most efficient shooter in that he's very productive with the 10 or so shots he takes but I'd go with Reggie. What about Dan Majerle? He hit some big shots. I also liked the Ice Man, George Gervin. Thanks for the list.

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Gemineye Hub Author 21 months ago

Tom, I'll tell ya, this list really tore me in half! LOL - I agree with the shots, and I see your standing absolutely. But, when it comes to putting the ball in the hole, consistantly - the flow of the shot, the confidence, amazing. The list only has 2 PGs on it, to me, the 2 best shooting PGs I can remember playing. Both were capable of dropping 25-30 ona nightly basis if need be.

Thunder Dan!!! Majerle was a nice shooter as well, and I thought about him. Iceman, I didn't get the privelage to see much of him in his prime, but he certainly seemed like a really sweet player to watch.

Thanks for the comment!

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